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Friday, November 10, 2006

In Conclusion

I've been very busy, with school and life, which is why I haven't been able to post in regards to the lastest A's stadium news. Reportedly the A's have reached a deal with Cisco and the city of Fremont. Interestingly, Wolff has been bashful in announcing this new deal and instead spoke to Fremont city council members; "Wolff 'seemed almost apologetic' that word of the Cisco deal was leaked to news reporters earlier in the week." The Fremont city council still must hammer out transportation, financing, and rezoning details, but so far they seem happy with the deal.

As Wolff plans to move the team to Fremont, John York continues to tarnish 49er legacy as he cut off talks with San Francisco and told the media Santa Clara was in the plans of a new stadium on Wednesday. Whether not this is a bluff or an actual legitamite plan, Niner fans should start to organize if they want to try and keep their team in S.F. Remember the 49ers are the only San Francisco professional fanchise to ever win a championship. I will continue to post opinions on the 49er situation, because I find it very similar to the A's stadium issues. It's seems that York wants a Theme Park Stadium, with coasters traveling through the park, much as Wolff wants his Disneyland Dream Park.

So is it over? Apparently not to Robert Limon, head of Chose Or Lose. Here's his statement:
The Fremont community has to approve the development plan, and the infrastructural investment is going to be considerable. This plan may not work for Fremont---and Oakland needs to have options on the table and ready to go.

So I am not advocating negativity. I am advocating RESPONSIBILITY and communication. We need our city's leaders to publicly communicate what they will do NOW. Hopefully we can get them to put aside their personal concerns for the good of the community.

Let's just be open, honest, and realistic. Most importantly, LET'S BE IN ACTION.

There's a possibility we can hold a press conference TUESDAY at 6pm at the UPTOWN nightclub. I think it would be a great counter message to Lew's McDisneyCisco Village announcement. Plus, we could get a press release out and get alot of great press which will amplify our message. Most importantly--- YOU will get an opportunity to get on the Mic and speak your peace and express your message (keep it clean please). We will invite politicos also. It could be alot of fun.

2. We also need to agendize this entire subject to the City Council. Would you be willing to show up to the City Council in the next few weeks?

Feedback welcomed. If we do this Uptown Press Conference---we need to choose today and get it in action.

Who's up to Play? Let me know,

Thank you all,

Robert Limon

If the this is the end, I want to say a few things, for I can't be at the Uptown meeting because I'm at school. A number of things have come to light during this process:

1. The A's fanchise has a long history of screwing it's fans and cities, this is just another manifestation of that trend. I don't think that change either. Do you really think the A's will stay in Fremont for more than 40 years. This is a short term/cheap solution to the A's stadium situation, and Wolff will not make as much money as he wants by building suburban ballpark.

2. Seatle will be the only urban ballpark in the AL West. Anaheim and Arlington are both very suburban ballparks. The Fremont park will be another car friendly facility and will continue to make I880 a nightmare.

3. You cannot place the blame on the current Oakland City Council, yes they did abolutely nothing to keep the A's, but even if they tried, Wolff would have not been swayed; he wanted to move the team from the beginning. The blame lands on Jerry Brown and the Schott/Hoffman ownership during the late 90's. They had a golden opportunity to hash out a plan to build a downtown ballpark, but neither side was willing to compromise. The Haas family sold the fanchise to Schott and Hoffman with the understanding they wouldn't move the team.

4. Oakland will, once again, be burned by big business.

5. Cisco Field will be a carbon copy of Artie Moreno's Angel Stadium, cheap and souless.

6. By moving the team to Fremont, you will lose much of the soul and eccentricity that was a big part of the Oakland A's fan experience. Whether is was Crazy George's wave, the Banjo Guy, or the drummers and flag wavers in left field. I think unfortunately you lose those unique qualities of an A's game when the team goes to Fremont.

7. Oakland loses a huge part of it's culture and identity. I guess we'll have to rely on the Hyphy Movement for motivation and excitment.

8. This will be a huge change for most of us A's fans. I will go to games in Fremont, but it will not be the same. The idea of building a mall around the stadium is gross to me. I don't want to be bombarded with annoying teenage girls and the superficiality that comes with large suburban retail centers like the one Wolff plans. The tailgaters will be pushed far from the stadium. Maybe instead they can eat a Chotchkie's closer to the stadium and be amazed by their waiters flair. Sounds like fun Lew. (Im fairly bitter)

9. As for a name change, I really hope they don't change the name. But at this point Wolff has burned Oakland so much that a name change would be the icing on the cake. Wolff might as well continue to humiliate Oakland and alienate A's fans.

If this is the end, I would like to thank all the Oakland supporters and their efforts. At least we didn't roll over. I would also like to thank everybody who came to this blog and stated their opinion, whether it was for or against. This was my first blog, and I hope people came away with a new perspective. Thanks for putting up with my spelling and grammatical errors. Thanks to all the other bloggers who helped me out.

I will continue to post things, but I'm fairly busy these days, and haven't had much time to post. Hopefully the 49ers will stay in S.F. I'm a Raider fan, and I even have sympathy for Niner fans right now. I know what their going through.


Anonymous Oakland Si said...

Robert is right. Fremont has not approved anything. Wolff has yet to submit development plans, and when he does that process could take as longas two years. Then again, the Giants may well relent and allow the A's to build in San Jose in exchange for some $$, rather than watch the ballpark go up outside San Jose limits and Silicon Valley sponsors leave the Giants without any payback.

Will I still go to games? As it stands Wolff wants to build a tiny (32,000 seats) park far from any public transit, so I might not be able to even if I were so inclined.

11/10/2006 5:02 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're right, it would be nice if Lew kept the name Oakland attached to the team, but I don't see that happening with him. Just like Schott, has a pipedream to bring a baseball team to SJ for posterity, baseball purists be damned.

11/13/2006 9:03 AM

Blogger Georob said...

If Wolff was going to make a name change right away, one clue would be the elimination of "Oakland" from all marketing and press releases. It would be very easy to just refer to them as the "Athletics".

However, "Oakland" is mentioned at in the Press Release about todays announcement when referring to Lew Wolff. I know, small consolation.

I predict the name stays with "Oakland" as long as the A's play at the Coliseum. The team will have 3-5 years to market to South Bay fans and corporate interests before Cisco Park even opens, and that will give the A's plenty of time to see what name is appropriate.

Marine Layer thinks that all this "city name" business is nonsense. But the fact that Senator Feinstein and SF officials want to PREVENT the 49'ers from still using "SF" while in Santa Clara proves otherwise. People DO care about it, ML!

As for you DiFi, just concentrate on getting our troops out if Iraq.

11/14/2006 11:15 AM

Anonymous Beresford said...

"Soul and eccentricity" doesn't pay the bills, or at the very least gets big dollar players signed. And the visuals that the Hyphy movement conjure up are a large reason why people stay away from Oakland. Call them racist if you will, but that's just a reality.

When the Coliseum was opened in 1966, it too was at the edge of town, in an undeveloped area, and was derired as cold and sterile. The "Mausoleum", I believe it was referred to. Wanna go back further? What is now Central Oakland was considered "out in the boonies" until the 1906 earthquake forced San Francisco refugees to go there.

Every town starts out as a frontier. And what's already established is always better than something brand new. But as cities develop and mature, they eventually acquire that so-called "soul" that is initially lacking. Fremont will do the same, and already has in it's older neighborhoods.

For a region that prides itself on liberalism and progressive thought, the Bay Area has more than its share of folks that flat out don't want change. Well that sounds more like right-wing conservatism to me, and that's pretty much what we're hearing from the "Oakland Only" crowd.

11/15/2006 5:08 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone needs to stop crying over Fremont. Stop saying are they going to still call them the Oakland Athletics....NO STUPID! If they are in Fremont why would that be called the Oakland A's??

Don't get me wrong....I am a huge A's fan and love the fact that they are moving. Who wants to share a statium? The only thing that they better keep are the bleachers and give us a huge parking lot to party in :) If they change the colors there will be hell to pay!

That't it... have a nice day :)

12/01/2006 12:07 PM


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